Loop Knots

[mefishnow]

Trying to get opinions on loop knots.

Do you use them?

For which baits?

Which type loop knot?

I haven't used them in the past, but I've always heard they are especially good for adding action to topwaters.

My fear has always been that if any slack is created between the lure and the knot during head shake, then the loop would snap. Similar to grabbing your line just above the lure to boat a fish. I don't know if there is any merit to this thought.

[aqua pimp]

The only knot I use! I use it on tops, Corkys, Assassins, and even using it to tie my hooks on while free lining Shrimp. A great knot that when tied right won't fail. When building your loop make sure the loop is not to big. Sometimes when there to big the front hook on a topwater will catch the loop.

AQUA PIMP

[Oleander Kayaker]

Here is an animation of the rapala knot that I use. I adjust the size of the loop and then lock down the overhand knot, shown in slide 3, during slide 9. Then I tighten the rest of it, as shown in slide 10

http://www.animatedknots.com/rapala/index.php?Categ=fishing&LogoImage=LogoGrog.jpg&Website=www.animatedknots.com

[mefishnow]

The only knot I use! I use it on tops, Corkys, Assassins, and even using it to tie my hooks on while free lining Shrimp. A great knot that when tied right won't fail. When building your loop make sure the loop is not to big. Sometimes when there to big the front hook on a topwater will catch the loop.

AQUA PIMP

Which version do you tie?

[corndog]

Only knot I use on lures. Once you get use to tying it it is the easiest knot to tie. It has improved my game!

[Charlie's Custom Rods]

I use it on everything

[imhammer]

Surgeons loop for me on everything!

[WestEndAngler]

The Improved Clinch Knot for me I guess that's what its called...

Through the eye wrap 8 times around the leader put the tag end through the loop close to the eye and then back through the loop you just made snug tight.

[XtremeAngler]

I'm too lazy for a loop knot. I just tie the good ol improved clinch knot to a norton quick clip. Works the same as a loop not except its very convenient to change out lures. you also get a swivel out of it to reduce line twist.

[sfef84]

I use norton quick clip as well... very nice. HOWEVER, change the quick clip every once in a while because the tag end of the metal looses its pinch against the stalk and the lure can easily fall off... especially when you switch to little jig heads after you use big topwaters with larger gauge metal loops (it stretches the spring). I have lost a couple Corkys this way.
Use the quick clip with the swivel barrel, it works great with a spoon

[backlasher]

Pat Murray, in his book No-Nonsense Guide To Coastal Fishing advocates a split ring because "a loop knot will flatten on the retrieve".
Jay Watkins says use a loop knot because the line can slip inside a split ring. I say use one or the other.

[gsb]

clinch on a norton clip, or a loop knot

[Curmudgeon]

I haven't learned the loop knot yet, but all the good fishermen I know use it. I'm too lazy. I use the norton clips with a clinch knot. I've also heard about some other "Clips" that are spirals so they won't fatigue like clips will. I've yet to find them because I live in Galveston and shop at our abysmal Academy.

[RonE]

I use a slip knot for mono. Can tie it with your eyes closed, your fingers cold and in sun or rain. Easy and strong.

[corndog]

A loop not is still the one of the best and easiest knots to tie. Add a 5 foot 20 lb shock leader attached via a blood knot to your 10-12 lb mono and you have rig.I now there are many other set ups but you cant go wrong with this one. Matbe I will mae a seperate post with the details!

[gsb]

Of course you could try my dad's improved hatchet knot.

[Curmudgeon]

A loop not is still the one of the best and easiest knots to tie. Add a 5 foot 20 lb shock leader attached via a blood knot to your 10-12 lb mono and you have rig.I now there are many other set ups but you cant go wrong with this one. Matbe I will mae a seperate post with the details!

C'mon, Corndog! Do tell!

[C.Hern5972]

For the plastics:
http://www.leadertec.com/tipsandtechniques/fishing_knots/knots_trilene.html

Loop Knot on tops, Slow Snkers, Corky

[corndog]

I use a loop knot on plastics. You will twist the mono without it and weaken the mono. Also the plastic will flip over during retrieve.

[Jerkyourcroaker]

I tie a 20# fluorocarbon leader onto my mono or braid main line (depending on which reel) and use a canoe knot for any and all lures. I used to use a surgeon's knot for joining my leader to the main line but wasn't satisfied with the results, too many failures due to operator error. I switched to a uni to uni knot on the leader based on advice from this forum and it works well, particularly with leadervto braid. The canoe knot never fails me. Easy to tie and the tag end faces away from the main line so it's pretty weedless.

See the attached fir a how to if you aren't familiar with the canoe knot. http://www.doalures.com/uploads/Docs/9102_DOA_10.28__Knot_Page.pdf

JYC

[dbarham]

clinch on a norton clip, or a loop knot

Yes!!!!

[Termo]

I use a uni-knot on everything.

[overloaded]

Loop knot good! It keeps your line from twisting up and you get much better action also.

[SCHU]

Thanks for the link to the loop knot. Can't wait to use it.

[FlounderSlayer]

How big do you want the circle to be on a loop knot?

[Shortystillsurfs]

My loops end up being about 3/8" - 1/2"' long when pulled straight. Maybe a little longer

[snake]

about 12 to 14 halfhitches will do the trick... I have had these hold on 5 hours fights and fish over 500lbs

Plus you can tie them hammered drunk.


No really know your knots...

[Hogie70]

LMAO Just learn a knot and stick with it... learn a knot you can tie in the dark and perfect it... you will find yourself wading before daylight wanting to change your lure and will not be able to because you have to have daylight to tie it... keep it simple because it really is... my .02

[D-I-A]

the loop knot works well for those who don't set the hook as hard as I do. I always snap the loop when I use it so I stick with the clinch knot and when I buy a new top or stick bait that I need to have the best action. I use coated wire and a wire leader connecter sleeve and make a permanent loop on the eye of the lure. Trick is cutting the sleeve down to make the most effective loop because if you leave the sleeve the length it comes from the manufacture the loop will have to be huge.

[Shortystillsurfs]

the loop knot works well for those who don't set the hook as hard as I do. .

Thats some serious shizzle right there. Ever straigten a hook?

[Milkjug]

I reel back in lips regularly.

[sfef84]

the loop knot works well for those who don't set the hook as hard as I do. I always snap the loop when I use it so I stick with the clinch knot and when I buy a new top or stick bait that I need to have the best action. I use coated wire and a wire leader connecter sleeve and make a permanent loop on the eye of the lure. Trick is cutting the sleeve down to make the most effective loop because if you leave the sleeve the length it comes from the manufacture the loop will have to be huge.

I will pay 100 dollars to see you snap a loop just by jerking your rod. Your loop is probably coming undone. you have to tighten the overhand knot before you put in the half hitch.

metal leaders are not necessary and are 100% visible. Just use higher test mono. 20lb is fine.

[D-I-A]

The line snaps behind the knot. I am an ultra light fisherman. I don't use anything over 10lb. test. Got to give the fish a chance. The loop knot can only take 70% of the original rated line strength. With my set up it is closer to 98% so I can use the lighter line.

[corndog]

I differ in my opinion. Ive caught 40 lb jack fish on a 12lb test with 20lb mono leaders with a loop knot. Ive never had a loop knot snap on me.

[Hook&Look]

Here is an animation of the rapala knot that I use. I adjust the size of the loop and then lock down the overhand knot, shown in slide 3, during slide 9. Then I tighten the rest of it, as shown in slide 10

http://www.animatedknots.com/rapala/index.php?Categ=fishing&LogoImage=LogoGrog.jpg&Website=www.animatedknots.com

thanks for the link to this site, I need to increase my knot options, this site breaks the process down.