My Project

[PasadenaMan]

Well guys, I had purchased a Saltwater Series II Yamaha 130 and was going to put it on my 18 foot Bayliner. Turns out the transom wood is rotted .

My Mechanic came across this 20 or 21 foor Aluminum Starcraft that needs some spit and elbogrease so to say. Its in good condition except for the sore eyes factor.

I Plan to have it running by the 4th of July. It has a 25 inch transom. My boat mechanic says that the 130 will be a little overkill since its such a light boat. Once I go for a few test runs in Lake Houston I will rig it up for the Bay. I plan on adding a few of those underwater green LED lights on the transom and a few in the boat.

Can anyone let me know where all I can go to with this boat? This is my 1st boat.

[Robalo]

All over the bays with a good auto bilge pump-shouldn't be a problem. I think I'd rather be in the aluminium job than a Bayliner anyway-looks very versatile-just carry spare paint for the dings-beats fiberglass repairs!! Should serve ya well!!!

[coachlaw]

I had an 18 foot starcraft that was a nice boat. She ran fast with a 70 Johnson. I think you'd do well with a 90 on a 20 footer. Starcrafts are good boats. Just check that transom. The high gunwales on the starcrafts make them safe and good for the jetties for sure. If you're going to be wading from it though, you'll need to add a step from the transom.

Unfortunately Bayliners are notorious for transom and stringer rot. :(

[CarolinaSkiffin]

Should be a good rig when you get done with it. I fished aluminuim boats a lot of years and they might beat the hell out of you but they get you there and very little maintence

[PasadenaMan]

The floors have been riped out, thats my first project. What size gas tank and Bildge do yall recomend?

[majek_maniac]

Thats gonna be a nice rig when its done. I like it. I wouldd recomment at least the very least a 20 gal tank and a 500 gph bildge, minimum. More is always better as long as you have the space for the fuel tank. Look on craigslist, for a large console, they have them on there a lot from various boats. Then you can get a 20-30 gal tank and put it under the console. I like the plastic ones because you can visually inspect the fuel level. Mechanical devices on boats are destined to fail. Just my opinion.

My boat has a 30 gal tank under the console. The measurements are around 30" long, 16" wide and 20" tall, give or take.

Keep us posted with pics on the progress.

[Tiny]

I am assuming it is a riveted hull, with that, and you saying the floor is already out. I would flip the thing over and put a good couple coats of marine bottom paint. Also check for and repair any Oxidation and holes which may be where the boat sits on the trailer bunks...... Trust me I know.

[Robalo]

800-1200GPH AUTO bilge pump-only way to go-you can make it switched and auto very easy-they come that way. Tiny made a good point about rivets and oxidation also. 30 gallon will get ya about 50 miles per day with the 90-I had a 25 gallon tank and got 40-50 miles per day per tank. Nice rig you'll have.

[PasadenaMan]

Thanks Robalo. I have a 130 Yami Salt water series II. How much less miles do you think I will get? I think I am going to have to opt for a 29 Gallon Aux tank in addition to the 18 gallon it already has. I will be looking at it this weekend to check for oxidation. I thnk it does need few coats of bottom paint as well. I am going to hold off on the floor til then.

[Robalo]

Ooops, 130-no problem-should burn about same as a 90. Shoot, you can run all over the entire complex with 29 gallons-my old boat (17 Monark CC fiberglass, but likely weighed about the same as your 20' Starcraft) had a 90hp rude and 25 gallon tank-I could run from Tx City Dike or Dickinson Bay (146 ramp) to Alligator Point, then to Stingaree/Fat Rat Pass and back to Dickinson and still have gas left-I made runs from Port Mansfield to Landcut and back and side shots to other spots-it's about 20 miles just to the Landcut from Mansfield. Now my Skeeter with 150 yam has a 45 gallon tank and I can run pretty much all over Galveston Bay on 1 tank in a day, so you should be sitting real pretty. Good going-way to take a problem and make it a good thing out of it!! That boat should serve you well-overdoing the bilge with a 1000 or 1200 gph pump is a good idea-better safe than sorry!! Man, that rig will be fast, fuel efficient and tough to hurt!!

[majek_maniac]

I get around 100-115 miles out of my 30 gal tank and a 115 Johnson. Youll have plenty of gas with the 29 gal aux and 18 primary! Those 130s have the same block as the 90s and 115s(someone correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the smallest 6 cyclinder is the 150) Good luck.

And on the bilge, more is always better!!!

M.M.

[PasadenaMan]

I went this weekend to check out my project boat and to my surprise the floods had already been completely removed. I found that they had foamed underneath. I am going to move the console back a bit to gain more room up front. I took the console home to freshen it up.


I was surprised on how much room a 21 footer has. I am moving the console back a try to add about a foot to it. My Boat mechanic showed me about that has built in tackle storage and want to integrate that to my console or rear seating area. I am going to put in a 18 Gallon gas tank on each side. Now Call me silly but I am going to Jerry Rig a 5 Gallon drinking water can in the back as well.

In the rear I am going to add a bench with under storage. I planning on having a cooler for the fish or Food and drinks. I am think about making some type of drawer under the seat to place my plastic boxes of tackle and light them up with led lights. I think having the life jackets and throw bag under the console is a good idea.

There are a few rivets that I am going to have to replace. Once that's taken care of I am going to paint the HULL black on the lower 2/3's of the boat and white on the top 1/3. Opposite of what the boat in the picture is. This is going to take me a while I believe its going to be worth it.

Any other suggestions would be appreciated.

[007]

That's gonna be a pretty quick boat with that 130 on it.

[Robalo]

That'll be a nice rig Pasadena Man. I think you got it worked out and hope to see ya on the water soon!!!

[FlatoutFishin]

Looks good, but why are you moving everything back. It will run a little shallower if the weight is more dispersed. JMO of course. Moving the console, all the batteries, and gas tanks, plus a 5 gal washdown all equal more weight in the back and makes it harder to get on plane. Plus the weight of a 130 is quite a bit more than a 90.

Still the deep V should do you well in G Bay...I know i wish i had it on my shallowsport at times!

[PasadenaMan]

I know this is corny doing this layout in MSPAINT but what about this layout? When I went on 007's boat I notieced that he had his gas tank on the front of his boat. Now I know why.

[007]

I know this is corny doing this layout in MSPAINT but what about this layout? When I went on 007's boat I notieced that he had his gas tank on the front of his boat. Now I know why.

Why don't you put one of the batteries on the other side to even out the weight?

[FlatoutFishin]

Are one of the batteries starting and one for a trolling motor. If its a trolling motor it may be placed up front or under the console, unless your running a transom mount...Just a thought.

[PasadenaMan]

I don't want to worry about running low on power. I plan to run some lights as well. No trolling motor planned yet.

[Robalo]

Pasadenaman:

007 is right-you may want to split those batteries to even out the weight. That luminum boat will tilt while at rest with both on 1 side in the corner.

[PasadenaMan]

Thanks for the Tip. I will do that. Academy has a 120 quart Coller on sale this weekend for about 70 bux, i think i might go pick one up. Man I have a ways to go. But I'll get there. Luckaly It just needs paint, floors and steering, the the Electronics. I am refinancing to a fixed right now otherwise this would had been a 2 or 3 weekend project.

[coachlaw]

That vessel will look real fine tied to the dock at Blockade Runners.

[PasadenaMan]

Quick Question buys, I need to get a chartplotter/fishfinder before I lay the floor down. Any recomendations? I was looking at a Raymarine A65 for about 400 bux online.

Thanks!

[007]

Quick Question buys, I need to get a chartplotter/fishfinder before I lay the floor down. Any recomendations? I was looking at a Raymarine A65 for about 400 bux online.

Thanks!

Why before the floor? Are you getting a thru-hull transducer?

[PasadenaMan]

There is a channel that is about 8 inches wide on the floor and i dont want to mess up any of the cables. Not sure what a through hull transducer is.

[007]

There is a channel that is about 8 inches wide on the floor and i dont want to mess up any of the cables. Not sure what a through hull transducer is.

Go ahead and pull 3 or 4 3/8" nylon pull ropes thru it for future use, that way you can add electronics and such with out it being a PITA.

A shoot thru the hull transducer replaces a stern mounted one.

[PasadenaMan]

Any cons on the A65 from ray marine?

[coachlaw]

I've heard through hull transducers will not work on aluminum. Just a thought before you let 007 lead you down the wrong road :D

[007]

I've heard through hull transducers will not work on aluminum. Just a thought before you let 007 lead you down the wrong road :D

Wasn't trying to lead him anywhere, I just axed a kwestion coach......do you feel me?

[coachlaw]

Nah, you were trying to mess him up. I done see'd it happ'nin.

[dbarham]

I've heard through hull transducers will not work on aluminum. Just a thought before you let 007 lead you down the wrong road :D
not 007!:D

[PasadenaMan]

Ok guys, I have an update. I spent my boat repair money on Stock options for CTIC Dec 2009 Strike price at $2.50.

Not sure if that makes any sense but the boat repair money has been invested. My friend was looking for some good stocks to invest in as well and he said that he would sponsor my boat repairs, lol if I told him what the stock was.
He bit and bought 100 Contract for CTIC, same as the one I bought and 1000 Shares of common stock as well. Once they "Blow up" he is going to fix my boat and f/b floors. Stock can blow up anywhere from now till O2t 2 depending on fda approval date. I get to keep my boat repair money + the gains. Can't beat that.

In the mean time I am taking the boat to my parents house and clean it up and put the new led lights the trailer.

[WestEndAngler]

Are the photos you attached still working on the 1st page? Could be the work computer... I will double check when at my house but I don't think I've been able to see what your talking about...

[PasadenaMan]

Looks like the pictures have been stripped.

[WestEndAngler]

Yeah... that's what I was thinking... Dunno how that happened... I will alert Webmaster T

[WestEndAngler]

Fixed!

[PasadenaMan]

Ok, I dumped $2k into the stock market and am starting back up on working on my boat. Woohoo. I am getting my 40 gallon gas tank next week and install the marine plywood floor next weekend.

[Tiny]

P-Man... seriously you should put the fuel tank in the center of the boat.. like under the console. Gasoline is heavy, you really want to eaven out your weight completely.
Also think about what happens when you anchor up...... the back of the boat will most likely be where the fishing gets done so... the more deck space in the back, the better.

[PasadenaMan]

Roger that Tiny, I am raising the console and placing the Gas tank there.

I bought a VHF radio today
Cobra MR-F75B VHF Marine Radio
http://www.weatherconnection.com/scripts/imageloader.asp?img=MRF75B_p.gif&type=p

Probobly Over Kill but will go great with my blackup Hand Held ICOM I-35
http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/woeimages/Electronics/11656.jpg (http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=11656#)

[coachlaw]

Ah, a belt and suspenders man like myself. Before you know it, you'll have an Eez In kicker bracket and a little kicker motor on there too. Good job.

[corndog]

May want to think about runnning a 1-2" pvc pipe so you can pull future wiring thru it for other stuff you may want to run from the console to stern just a thought

[PasadenaMan]

May want to think about runnning a 1-2" pvc pipe so you can pull future wiring thru it for other stuff you may want to run from the console to stern just a thought

Thanks, we found a 5 inch wide |___| channel under the flooring that runs the wires. I am going t run a ground and positive wire to the bow to a small power distribution block to make it easier add electic accesories.

[corndog]

Thanks, we found a 5 inch wide |___| channel under the flooring that runs the wires. I am going t run a ground and positive wire to the bow to a small power distribution block to make it easier add electic accesories.

If you solder the end of the wires before your crimp them, then follow that will a heat shrink sleeve, then after you make all the connection cover them with silicone(spark plug grease) it will go along way to prevent corrosion. Keep us posted on the progress!!!

[PasadenaMan]

Quick update, we have the pattern cut out for the plywood and will be working on the floor somtime this week. We did get the Outboard mounted. Take a look. I getting excited. The motor has ony had 1 owner besides me.
I have to do some work on the hull to get her pretty. Please pardon the Mess.

[PasadenaMan]

Quick update, My mechanic found a console for me and its needing some cleaning, waxing and plishing. The good thing is that is has a whole lot of storage and it has $500 worth of Yamaha digital Guages in it. A Tach, speed, oil, trim level and the rest I cant remember but this is whats going in my boat.

I will be having a friend fabricate the tubing in 1.5" Stainless steel or alumnum. The Fuel tank is built into & plumbed into the console.

[Melon]

Looking good.

[PasadenaMan]

I have placed about $2500 into stocks and am down $1200 but thats a little set back until April. I am waiting for my nest egs to hatch and am averaging down each time I buy on the Dips.

I think I just need t pony up and just pay the $750 in part to fishish this lil project but have to keep it hush hush from the wife. ;)

[007]

I have placed about $2500 into stocks and am down $1200 but thats a little set back until April. I am waiting for my nest egs to hatch and am averaging down each time I buy on the Dips.

I think I just need t pony up and just pay the $750 in part to fishish this lil project but have to keep it hush hush from the wife. ;)

Bring it over here and we can get' er done in 25% of your schedule.

[dbarham]

Quick update, My mechanic found a console for me and its needing some cleaning, waxing and plishing. The good thing is that is has a whole lot of storage and it has $500 worth of Yamaha digital Guages in it. A Tach, speed, oil, trim level and the rest I cant remember but this is whats going in my boat.

I will be having a friend fabricate the tubing in 1.5" Stainless steel or alumnum. The Fuel tank is built into & plumbed into the console. that was my console I traded that to Mr pete!! I got the stainless poling platforms that go with it you want em?? good deal?? Glad someone is gonna finally use it it was way too big for my carolina skiff but I used it!!:D:D i had the door for the top but have since trashed it sorry!! that was in alvin at ol man Mr Alaniz i think is his name he has a ton of parts!!!

[PasadenaMan]

that was my console I traded that to Mr pete!! I got the stainless poling platforms that go with it you want em?? good deal?? Glad someone is gonna finally use it it was way too big for my carolina skiff but I used it!!:D:D i had the door for the top but have since trashed it sorry!! that was in alvin at ol man Mr Alaniz i think is his name he has a ton of parts!!!


What is the poling platform? I am not familure with that.

[007]

What is the poling platform? I am not familure with that.
Your boat has too deep of a draft to worry about a poling platform........just keep doing what you're doing. I'm ready to try her out when you are!!

[PasadenaMan]

I am going to use the durrabak grey(UV) on the inside. The hull I am going to paint later black and white with the follwing http://www.sscoatings.net/aquaplym-info.htm
in January

[PasadenaMan]

I did a lil research and am going with the Line X non Skid Spray on Liner to cover the plywood. I got a quote for $650 to get all teh floor, walls and that top part of the edge of the gunnel. Anyone here applied this to their boat?

[WestEndAngler]

I've applied it the tub of my CJ7. Why would you pay to have someone spray it in for you? You can do a great job with some good prep and the do it yourself roll on bed liner kits... Just a thought if you have the time to devote to that. If you don't then that's a different story.

[PasadenaMan]

I picked up a used 17 Gallon gas tank with sending unit and the matching yamaha fuel water filter seperator for $50. Now I have 2 -17 gallon tanks. The other one needs a sending unit though.

[PasadenaMan]

Today I picked up a new in the box Binnacle control for my console.
Slowly but surly I am getting there. I Also picked up a new Rule 1500 Bilge pump last week. Nest week I am on vacation and I am going to clean up the console and patch up the holes ont he top of the console.

All I need now is a steering setup and the ignition key part.. That's for next paycheck. I did get some LEDs from the same store that the Camp lights were ordered and am very impressed for the amount of light they emmit for $3.99 a led. They are enclosed in a water proof capsule.

[PasadenaMan]

I finally received my Controls, the person I bought it from on ebay did not do a very good job at keeping me up to date. I thought I was ripped off until he replied to my 5 email requesting information. This would have been the 1st time being ripped off on ebay ever. I have been ebay'n since 1999.

No all I have to do is figure out where the console is going to sit on the boat and measure it to get the length of the control cables and steering cable kit to buy. Then get the floor sprayed with line X and I am done. Well your never done now that I think about it. ;)

[NBN]

Today I picked up a new in the box Binnacle control for my console.
Slowly but surly I am getting there. I Also picked up a new Rule 1500 Bilge pump last week. Nest week I am on vacation and I am going to clean up the console and patch up the holes ont he top of the console.

All I need now is a steering setup and the ignition key part.. That's for next paycheck. I did get some LEDs from the same store that the Camp lights were ordered and am very impressed for the amount of light they emmit for $3.99 a led. They are enclosed in a water proof capsule.


What part are you needing? I have 2 complete (Minus one Key) Yami. harnesses and ignitions. I might be able to help you out and save you some cash.

[PasadenaMan]

I have the 1995 130 saltwater series II motor, the 704 Binnacle and thats all I have so far. I need the ignition part where the key and lanyard go and when i get the measurements, the control cables and the sterring nfb kit and wheel.
I do not have any harneses.

[NBN]

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